Sometimes we are attacked from a farm of machines so it may have to be an ip range that is the issue
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From: James Smith
Sent: 12 January 2021 10:19
To: 'users@httpd.apache.org' <users@httpd.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache in under attack. [EXT]
Yes - it is something we need to do when we come under attack at work - as often the attacks are not enough to trigger standard intrusion detection (esp as our requests can be quite heavy)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.INVALID>
Sent: 12 January 2021 10:07
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache in under attack. [EXT]
System administrators doing it manually???
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 01:28:50 PM GMT+3:30, James Smith <js5@sanger.ac.uk> wrote:
Rate limiting may work - but the rate may be just slightly to slow for your setting - manually doing it is a good thing ...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.INVALID>
Sent: 12 January 2021 09:21
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache in under attack. [EXT]
Thank you, but "Firewalld" or "iptables" can't do it automatically? When an IP sending many request then it automatically blocked.
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 12:49:50 PM GMT+3:30, James Smith <js5@sanger.ac.uk> wrote:
Jason,
I would also query why your process are ~ 1G resident that seems quite large for apache.
What modules do you have enabled - even with mod_perl embedded I would not want them to go about 500-800M depending on the site of your box.
I know Apache is very good at grabbing memory for each process - but it doesn't tend to hand it back - and just keeps it (just in case)
It looks like you either have a memory leak - or the code is collecting too much data before squirting it out
There are other setups that you may want to look at if you have large dynamic requests and a lot of small static request (images/css/js) where you run two web servers - one serving static content and proxying back to dynamic content.
James
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From: James Smith <js5@sanger.ac.uk>
Sent: 12 January 2021 09:09
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache in under attack. [EXT]
Put a firewall rule into block whatever that first IP address is then.
Something like:
firewall-cmd --permanent --add-rich-rule="rule family='ipv4' source address='X.X.X.X' reject"
If you are seeing a current attack then you can tweak Charles' command line to:
tail -10000 access.log | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head
or I often use cut instead of awk..
tail -10000 access.log | cut -d ' ' -f 1 | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.INVALID>
Sent: 12 January 2021 08:53
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache in under attack. [EXT]
It show me:
13180 X.X.X.X
1127 X.X.X.X
346 X.X.X.X
294 X.X.X.X
241 X.X.X.X
169 X.X.X.X
168 X.X.X.X
157 X.X.X.X
155 X.X.X.X
153 X.X.X.X
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 07:12:22 AM GMT+3:30, Bender, Charles <charles@beachcamera.com.invalid> wrote:
Run this against your log file in bash shell
cat access.log | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head
This will show you most frequent IPs, sorted in descending order. Block as needed
?On 1/11/21, 7:11 PM, "Jason Long" <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
Can you help me?
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 03:36:30 AM GMT+3:30, Nick Folino <nick@folino.us> wrote:
Concentrate on just one...
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 7:02 PM Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> It is a lot of IP addresses !!!
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> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 03:30:02 AM GMT+3:30, Nick Folino <nick@folino.us> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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> How to find pattern:
> Look at log.
> Find bad things that are similar.
>
> Then:
> Block bad things from reaching web server.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 6:49 PM Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>> How to find pattern?
>> Log show me: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__paste.ubuntu.com_p_MjjVMvRrQc_&d=DwIFaQ&c=D7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0SqQnqBo&r=oH2yp0ge1ecj4oDX0XM7vQ&m=3PjPryDoNL3lr2gh0F6gLkL-pFWSat8aihqbLnBMag8&s=iTeaVG53Ne-jiAhMis6h9nlKBdUrWXhIuky31GQhURE&e=
>>
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>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 03:06:12 AM GMT+3:30, Filipe Cifali <cifali.filipe@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Yeah it's probably not going to matter if you don't know what's attacking you before setting up the rules, you need to find the patterns, either the attack target or the attackers origins.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:26 PM Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> I used a rule like:
>>>
>>> # firewall-cmd --permanent --zone="public" --add-rich-rule='rule port port="80" protocol="tcp" accept limit value="100/s" log prefix="HttpsLimit" level="warning" limit value="100/s"'
>>>
>>> But not matter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 02:47:01 AM GMT+3:30, Filipe Cifali <cifali.filipe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You need to investigate your logs and find common patterns there, also there are different tools to handle small and big workloads like you could use iptables/nftables to block based on patterns and number of requests.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:06 PM Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> On a CentOS web server with Apache, someone make a lot of request and it make slowing server. when I disable "httpd" service then problem solve. How can I find who made a lot of request?
>>>> [url]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__imgur.com_O33g3ql-5B_url-5D&d=DwIFaQ&c=D7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0SqQnqBo&r=oH2yp0ge1ecj4oDX0XM7vQ&m=3PjPryDoNL3lr2gh0F6gLkL-pFWSat8aihqbLnBMag8&s=5Qu-cdmn037VIUfExtigktWPBBJ7lby836voIoSO_y0&e=
>>>> Any idea to solve it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
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-----Original Message-----
From: James Smith
Sent: 12 January 2021 10:19
To: 'users@httpd.apache.org' <users@httpd.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache in under attack. [EXT]
Yes - it is something we need to do when we come under attack at work - as often the attacks are not enough to trigger standard intrusion detection (esp as our requests can be quite heavy)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.INVALID>
Sent: 12 January 2021 10:07
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache in under attack. [EXT]
System administrators doing it manually???
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 01:28:50 PM GMT+3:30, James Smith <js5@sanger.ac.uk> wrote:
Rate limiting may work - but the rate may be just slightly to slow for your setting - manually doing it is a good thing ...
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.INVALID>
Sent: 12 January 2021 09:21
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache in under attack. [EXT]
Thank you, but "Firewalld" or "iptables" can't do it automatically? When an IP sending many request then it automatically blocked.
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 12:49:50 PM GMT+3:30, James Smith <js5@sanger.ac.uk> wrote:
Jason,
I would also query why your process are ~ 1G resident that seems quite large for apache.
What modules do you have enabled - even with mod_perl embedded I would not want them to go about 500-800M depending on the site of your box.
I know Apache is very good at grabbing memory for each process - but it doesn't tend to hand it back - and just keeps it (just in case)
It looks like you either have a memory leak - or the code is collecting too much data before squirting it out
There are other setups that you may want to look at if you have large dynamic requests and a lot of small static request (images/css/js) where you run two web servers - one serving static content and proxying back to dynamic content.
James
-----Original Message-----
From: James Smith <js5@sanger.ac.uk>
Sent: 12 January 2021 09:09
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: RE: [users@httpd] Apache in under attack. [EXT]
Put a firewall rule into block whatever that first IP address is then.
Something like:
firewall-cmd --permanent --add-rich-rule="rule family='ipv4' source address='X.X.X.X' reject"
If you are seeing a current attack then you can tweak Charles' command line to:
tail -10000 access.log | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head
or I often use cut instead of awk..
tail -10000 access.log | cut -d ' ' -f 1 | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.INVALID>
Sent: 12 January 2021 08:53
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache in under attack. [EXT]
It show me:
13180 X.X.X.X
1127 X.X.X.X
346 X.X.X.X
294 X.X.X.X
241 X.X.X.X
169 X.X.X.X
168 X.X.X.X
157 X.X.X.X
155 X.X.X.X
153 X.X.X.X
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 07:12:22 AM GMT+3:30, Bender, Charles <charles@beachcamera.com.invalid> wrote:
Run this against your log file in bash shell
cat access.log | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr | head
This will show you most frequent IPs, sorted in descending order. Block as needed
?On 1/11/21, 7:11 PM, "Jason Long" <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
Can you help me?
On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 03:36:30 AM GMT+3:30, Nick Folino <nick@folino.us> wrote:
Concentrate on just one...
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 7:02 PM Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> It is a lot of IP addresses !!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 03:30:02 AM GMT+3:30, Nick Folino <nick@folino.us> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> How to find pattern:
> Look at log.
> Find bad things that are similar.
>
> Then:
> Block bad things from reaching web server.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 6:49 PM Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>> How to find pattern?
>> Log show me: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__paste.ubuntu.com_p_MjjVMvRrQc_&d=DwIFaQ&c=D7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0SqQnqBo&r=oH2yp0ge1ecj4oDX0XM7vQ&m=3PjPryDoNL3lr2gh0F6gLkL-pFWSat8aihqbLnBMag8&s=iTeaVG53Ne-jiAhMis6h9nlKBdUrWXhIuky31GQhURE&e=
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 03:06:12 AM GMT+3:30, Filipe Cifali <cifali.filipe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah it's probably not going to matter if you don't know what's attacking you before setting up the rules, you need to find the patterns, either the attack target or the attackers origins.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:26 PM Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>> I used a rule like:
>>>
>>> # firewall-cmd --permanent --zone="public" --add-rich-rule='rule port port="80" protocol="tcp" accept limit value="100/s" log prefix="HttpsLimit" level="warning" limit value="100/s"'
>>>
>>> But not matter.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 02:47:01 AM GMT+3:30, Filipe Cifali <cifali.filipe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You need to investigate your logs and find common patterns there, also there are different tools to handle small and big workloads like you could use iptables/nftables to block based on patterns and number of requests.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 8:06 PM Jason Long <hack3rcon@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> On a CentOS web server with Apache, someone make a lot of request and it make slowing server. when I disable "httpd" service then problem solve. How can I find who made a lot of request?
>>>> [url]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__imgur.com_O33g3ql-5B_url-5D&d=DwIFaQ&c=D7ByGjS34AllFgecYw0iC6Zq7qlm8uclZFI0SqQnqBo&r=oH2yp0ge1ecj4oDX0XM7vQ&m=3PjPryDoNL3lr2gh0F6gLkL-pFWSat8aihqbLnBMag8&s=5Qu-cdmn037VIUfExtigktWPBBJ7lby836voIoSO_y0&e=
>>>> Any idea to solve it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@httpd.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Filipe Cifali Stangler
>>>
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